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USA 30% gross rental yield?

Last post 21 Oct 2008, 2:54 PM by SunnyS. 53 replies.
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  •  26 Nov 2007, 7:39 PM 387285 in reply to 360453

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    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Hi, might I add my thoughts to the process in simply reiterating what Fraser has said. There are properties in Rochester etc which on the face of it are ludicrously cheap. The problem is that that is usually for a reason eg new roof needed, mould problems, termite infestation, subsidence etc, local code violations etc. This can in effect lead you to having to knock the house down and start again. A good Realtor/ Deal Finder and inspector will help you through the maze. Not all parts of East Buffalo are bad for example, but you may have to buy a few crack houses before you find your gem.

    The yields of 30% are possible - yes. But a good team is essential to make it work for you.

    As was mentioned before, foreclosures (reposessions) are a good way to make big money in USA at present but they present their own problems too eg trashed by outgoing owners, left to sit moulding up for six months and in so doing brought the neighbourhood pricesd down with it, who manages the property during the refurb? On the plus side, a well refurbished property, can rent well with the good renting culture in many states.

    Like Simon I am doing this myself and it has taken a great deal of time and effort to put together a good team of people. As a matter of interest, if I were to find some good properties would anyone be interested in having me flip a property to them?  PS I have no link to Mr Ahuja. Just a normal UK investor with a full time normal job to pay the bills.

    Regards

    Robin
     

     

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  •  26 Nov 2007, 9:09 PM 387291 in reply to 387285

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Robin, I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts were regarding property on the US west coast. My brother is over in Santa Barbara at the moment and I have been looking at property with him. Looking at holiday villas to let out..

    Any thoughts?

    I would also be interested to hear of any properties that you need to flip..

    Regards

    Jai 


    Broker / Investor
  •  27 Nov 2007, 9:21 AM 387452 in reply to 387291

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    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Hi again Jai,  your idea sounds really exciting. Unfortunately it is in an area that I have little or no experience of, by that I mean the West Coast and also holiday lets. My own particular strategy has been firstly to find areas of low entry cost to the market. Secondly the area has to be well established into a rental culture with a good supply of blue collar workers or the Section 8 culture is well established (local version of DSS). The third issue is that I look at properties that will be attractive to the local population to rent and maybe ultimately buy (keep in mind what your exit strategy is). Finally for me the issue of cash flow/revenue is greater than capital growth (at least for just now).

    To purchase for holiday lets is a different market and unfortunately my experience of such is limited to Spain where my parents had a place. They bought well in the 60s before Spain got crazy and for many years they rented it out through the year to every kind of nationality. They used a London based marketing co and a locally based property manager. The big blow however came when the local property manager 'did a runner' with all the previous years rents. And I regret to say this is a story I have heard from several; sources in the States. It would appear any old Joe can set up stall as a property manager, be there one day and gone the next. Please take your time to choose a good team. Test them out in any way you can as the good ones will respond, the bad ones you will never hear from again. As for Realtors, please find someone who is specialised in the field you want to enter. They say you make your money when you buy and that is the Realtors job. Might I suggest you try and make contact with one of the local Real Estate Investment Clubs in Santa Barbara. They can help with so many things and most especially with advice. Try this out:

    http://www.nreiclub.com/scal/

    Seeing your background, finance might not be an issue but the concept of short rentals versus traditional leases may or may not be an issue. State laws also require the property to be outfitted in different ways ie local property codes, so if you are buying off plan then I suspect you might need to let them know it is for a holiday rental. This is only my feeling - not gospel.

    One thing you might keep in mind is what is going on with climate change at the moment and all the fires they have had in CA. In addition to the fire risk there is also significant drought risk. You may find you can't fill the pool or water the garden or in the most serious of cases, they cut off the water supply at certain times of the day. From my reserach the worst affected areas in CA are: 

    Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA; San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA; Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA; Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA

    Your holiday makers will want all mod cons and I supect water is one of them. I'm not saying your area is bad but check it out on DroughtScore.com 
    The West coast generally has much higher entry costs than I am looking at and I am not sure what kind of rentals you are hoping to receive. It may or may not be possible to achieve high yields but I guess that the potential for capital growth over the longish term ie 5 years plus is much better than what I am looking at. It all boils down to what your stategy is.

    I wish you well Jairaj and would welcome your experience of buying on the West coast. It would seem that in the USA there are so many more ways to make money out of property in the USA than is the accepted norm in UK. In the meantime, when I have a property that I think might interest you I'll get in get in touch (hopefully early new year).

    Regards

    Robin
     


     

  •  27 Nov 2007, 1:19 PM 387629 in reply to 387452

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Robin, really appreciate you taking the time and effort to post that.

     Thanks very much.

    Regards

     Jai


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  •  06 Feb 2008, 12:45 PM 427729 in reply to 309845

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Hi, recently returned from a investigative visit to Rochester. It does appear viable, tho' nearer the 20%. Having trouble getting a lender due to the low price of property.

    Tony Jones
  •  15 Feb 2008, 5:06 PM 434184 in reply to 358589

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Hi Simon

    I signed up and parted with £5k to Ajay. Have been sent 1 property so far. Service a bit slow and not done any DD on the actual property yet as they hold back the address until you commit. Will keep Singing Pig updated on the progress

     

    Amanda
     

  •  25 Feb 2008, 6:18 PM 440045 in reply to 387629

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Jairaj,

    In my opinion, Santa Barbara is the most beautiful and desirable town in the entire United States.

    It has everything: beauty, excellent weather, culture. From an investor's standpoint, it has the best virtue of all: a physical limit to where the town can grow, and thus house will always be in short supply with no hope of building any more. That keeps the prices very high.

     Santa Barbara is not the most expensve town in the United states, but it cerainly makes the short list.

    For the entire 50 years that I have had experience with Santa Barbara, it has been a very expensive place to buy. It has always been expensive and it will continue to always be expensive.

    That's not a bad thing if you have the price of admission. Your investment would be safe, and the town wil always be exclusive.

  •  04 Apr 2008, 5:25 PM 466521 in reply to 440045

    Re: USA 30% gross rental yield?

    Just researching USA at present - cheaper reposessed properties in New York State.


    Obviously to get a good deal and move quickly you have to purchase using cash. Ignoring any benefits of waiting until the $ rises to remortgage, I understood that I could not get a mortgage in USA until I had one year of credit history ie had held a US $ account (I have just opened a citibank dollar current account).

    Anyone know otherwise? 

    Another point - I totally agree that some of the very cheap properties are in desperate need of alot of work. I havent seen anything ready for immediate rental for under $20-25,000. The Home buyers reports are about $150, but very comprehensive, one I had done they spent 3 hours there.


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