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Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Last post 30 Jun 2009, 11:35 AM by Gekkoboy. 22 replies.
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19 Mar 2009, 9:13 PM |
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jay wura
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Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Hi forum members, I'd like to know if anyone has a clear picture of what is really happening at Gekko based on the set of property portfolios offered by Chris Long but which has turned into a disaster. I have spoken to Sammy (Roger Humphries) numerous times about this (and he sounds a really nice bloke) with explanations that the fault lies squarely at Chris Long's feet, but I left a deposit of £3,000 on three properties since October of last year paid into Gekko's account. I am beginning to get anxious that this situation is not being dealt with by either Chris nor taken seriously by Gekko.# Has anyone who left a deposit on these properties got their money back? Does anyone actually know Chris Long?
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19 Mar 2009, 9:49 PM |
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
do not know Gekko, but know Elite Alternative Investments which took 5000 reservation fees for HMO in Leeds and never delivered properties neither returned money. Now struggling to get my money back via debt collectors.Name of a guy is Sohron Aslanbeigi, anyone was dealing with him?I ws told there is police investigation
eugene
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20 Mar 2009, 1:08 AM |
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PaulC
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Hi Jay Myself and my business partner were interested in some of these portfolio's offered by Gekko, with Chris Long's name on top of the spreasheet. We submitted detailed requests several times as part of normal DD, and got no response from Roger on numerous occassions. Considering we were looking at handing over £1m plus and had done a fair bit of work looking into these porfolio's, very amateurish indeed. Told us everything we needed to know about them, as in they would only deal with novices ready to hand over fees no questions asked. We now delete all emails from Gekko immediately. No point wasting any more of our valuable time. Really hope you get your money back, but suggest you do likewise in deleting from now on. Good luck. Kind regards, Paul.
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20 Mar 2009, 8:24 AM |
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jay wura
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Thanks for the response Paul. Every time i speak to Roger or Marie (His assistant), they seem to deal with my calls and always promise that Roger will call me back (he has never really called me back, i've had to keep calling back to get to speak to him). I have to mention also that these days there never seems to be anyone around to pick up your calls to Gekko. As i said, Roger seems to be a genuine and pleasesnt person to speak to on the phone but business wise i find it hard going that since October of last year they have failed to get on top of things. When things go wrong it is always best to reassure people that something is being done about their issues, silence is never a good way to deal with it. Roger has said that Chris Long is the one that will make the refunds, but those who paid made the payment into Gekko Properties bank account, and with no experience of Chris Long (don't even know who he is!), should i have to wait to deal with him? If anyone else is experiencing this, please let me know.
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22 Mar 2009, 4:40 PM |
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SunnyS
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
I too am owed money and all I keep hearing is that deals are going through and I'll get my money soon. I agree Roger is a decent guy and if he could get our money back I know he would. He is working virtually 24/7 soley on this, but he underestimates CL's deceit and is too busy to check out the facts and protect himself. CL has alot of debts, CCJs and a pending bankrupcy order against him. He is an arogant chancer with nowhere to go.
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22 Mar 2009, 8:01 PM |
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SunnyS
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Look what I found whilst searching the internet - same modus operandi Challenor Property Development under investigation
INVESTORS across England fear they have been left tens of thousands of pounds out of pocket following the closure of a York property investment company. People from as far away as Leicester and London have told The Press that they paid sums of between £6,000 and £58,000 to Challenor Property Development, and are now worried they might never get their money back.
Challenor wrote to one property investor last month,
telling her that legal ownership of the company had been "transferred
and assigned" to a Carl Gilfoyle, along with all the "rights, interest
and benefit". The letter said it would take six to eight weeks for newly appointed
accountants to assess the current financial position. "Once this work
has been performed, any potential liability can then be agreed by the
new owners," it said.
The ownership transfer - while mooted- had never gone ahead. City of York Council said today that its trading standards department
had received a number of calls in recent weeks from people about
Challenor. "We are trying to locate the proprietors of the business to discuss
these matters with them," said a spokeswoman, adding that anyone
wishing to contact it about Challenor should phone Consumer Direct on
08454 040506.
North Yorkshire Police said it was "aware of the difficulties with this company". A spokesman said: "If anyone feels that they have had any problems with this company they can contact us via email at challenorpropdevelopments@northyorkshire.pnn.polic e.uk or by letter to Fulford Road police station. "They should give their name and full contact details along with a brief resume of the events." Investors told The Press today how they had paid money to Challenor after attending two-day seminars held at a York hotel. They said the company aimed to help them through the whole process of
buying property as an investment, from finding suitable properties to
sorting out legal matters and mortgages.
One investor, Rosalind Matthews, from Leicester, told The Press she
paid the company a deposit of £6,816 for an apartment last July.
She claimed she was subsequently told she could not buy the property,
after which she had repeatedly demanded a refund. But despite repeated
promises, nothing had been paid to her and she had recently been unable
to get through to anyone at Challenor.
Another investor,
David Howe, from London, said he had paid out a total of just over
£10,000 to Challenor, including deposits on properties and "membership"
fees, and had nothing to show for it as yet. "Quite frankly, I am so disappointed with them," he said. "This is making me feel sick."
Another investor, who did not wish to be named, said he had spent £50,000 plus VAT on acquiring a franchise from Challenor to operate on its behalf in a region of the country, and now feared he might not get any of the money back. "We were sold a dream and it is turning into a nightmare," he said.
Insight into the way company operated
A NOTICE inside the offices of Challenor explains something of how the
company operated, and how it encouraged people to invest money with it.
It states: "Question. Would you buy property if someone paid the deposit. Your legal fees were paid. "The stamp duty was paid. Someone found the property for you. Someone organised the mortgage. "Someone instructed the solicitor. Someone dealt with the developer. If
the answer to these questions is yes, then you need to join us at Challenor."
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22 Mar 2009, 8:03 PM |
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SunnyS
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
Challenor Property 4 arrested
Finally
four people have been arrested today by detectives investigating the
collapsed York-based property club Challenor Property Developments.
Financial investigators, supported by specialist search teams and cash
sniffer dogs from West Yorkshire Police, carried out a series of dawn
raids at several properties across York.
A large amount of property and documents were seized for examination during searches of the properties. The four arrested people - three men aged 62, 44 and 38, and a 51-year-old woman – were taken into custody for questioning. Police said they had been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and money laundering.
The Press exclusively revealed last summer how Challenor, which
operated out of Regency House atWestminster Business Park, near
Poppleton, had closed down suddenly, leaving investors fearing they
might have lost many thousands of pounds. The business dealt in the bulk sale of ‘buy-to-let’ property in the UK and abroad.
Police said today that more than 180 clients had complained to North
Yorkshire Police and there was a monetary loss in the region of £2
million.
Anyone with information regarding Challenor was urged to contact North
Yorkshire Police by calling 01904 669582, writing to Operation Leeson,
at York Police Station, Fulford Road, York or by emailing ChallenorPropDevelopments@northyorks...nn.polic e.uk.
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24 Mar 2009, 3:43 PM |
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Sam Gekko
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Re: Gekko Properties and Chris Long Issue
jidewura: Hi forum members, I'd like to know if anyone has a clear picture of what is really happening at Gekko based on the set of property portfolios offered by Chris Long but which has turned into a disaster. I have spoken to Sammy (Roger Humphries) numerous times about this (and he sounds a really nice bloke) with explanations that the fault lies squarely at Chris Long's feet, but I left a deposit of £3,000 on three properties since October of last year paid into Gekko's account. I am beginning to get anxious that this situation is not being dealt with by either Chris nor taken seriously by Gekko.# Has anyone who left a deposit on these properties got their money back? Does anyone actually know Chris Long?
Jay, I apologise if I have not got back to you as I should have but I want to assure you that the exact opposite is true when you state that Gekko are not taking this situation seriously. This situation has taken over my life, reduced my bank balance to zero and damaged my previously good reputation as a property sourcer and on a personal basis. The labour intensive work entailed in trying to ensure that all investors are refunded has rendered my current earnings to nothing because I have neglected my own business to concentrate on this very serious matter. A lot of investors are aware of the real situation here and what I am doing on their behalf but because the developments in this whole saga has become so public on so many forums over the past months, I may be guilty of overlooking the fact that some investors may not be so aware. I apologise for this, but there are only so many hours in a working day and though my working days are usually 12 to 14 hours 7 days a week, I am still severely limited to how many calls or e-mails I can return, whilst devoting my time to dealing with properties forwarded to me by Chris Long so that I can carry out diligence on them and - hopefully - find ones that are viable enough to attract buyers so the eventual proceeds are utilised to repay yet more investors. This is not spiel, it's a fact. Last week myself, Marie and Chris our foreman builder travelled to Lancashire to inspect 23 properties which Chris Long had sent over to us and which he could acquire subject to them stacking up. Me and Marie had already spent 4 days doing the paper diligence but when we inspected them we found they were all in very poor condition and over-priced despite what the vendor had assured Chris Long. We did not get home until 2 am from 8am. An exhausting 18 hour day and all for nothing, but this could have paid off and it would have been another lot of money from Chris Long with which to repay people with. I have no choice but to do this if I am to ensure that investors get repaid because, though Chris Long undoubtably does have contacts for BMV properties, he has neither the skill nor resources to effect true diligence and sales, and the profits from sales are the only means with which investors will get refunded. Incidentally, I have elected to take on this considerable workload without pay, because I want to ensure that investors do receive their money back as soon as possible, so I am at the back of the queue for what is owed to me. As far as refunds go - investors who have still to receive their money back can be forgiven for assuming that no one has been refunded so far because of the fact that the only responses to their public queries of who has been refunded are from other investors who have yet still to be refunded. So far, I have personally refunded over £100,000 - some of it from my own pocket and because I am now sick and tired of being made out to be a liar about the refunds - and other facts of this case - , I reproduce the facts below: REFUNDS Made By Gekko: K.Jacobs £6,000 D.Burgess £40,000 A.Whitehead £9,000 A & I.Bole £5,000 A.Jones £1,000 A.Israr £3,000 D.A £1,000 S.Vigor £1,000 AC.Jones £5,000 G.Martin £1,000 M.Caine £2,000 M.Fontaine £2,000 M.Ward £1,000 M.T £4,000 P.Sullivan £1,000 R.Sabharwell £1,000 J.Hunnybun £2,000 H.D £6,000 A.Dobson £5,000 A.C £7,000 TOTAL £102,000 In addition, I know Chris Long has refunded some investors though I am am not sure of the details. The unpaid slog I have put in over the past few months as also resulted in buyers being secured for 39 properties now which are in varying stages of conveyancing - the proceeds from which are more than adequate to refund the investors who have not so far been refunded, though I have no control over setbacks to the conveyancing process or the speed of the legal process. I am owed more money by Chris Long than all the investors put together so I am continuing to work on his properties to further ensure that yet more profits are available once all the investors have been repaid as I need to live as well, so I have more reasons than anyone to see the end of this nightmare. If what I am doing to ensure investors continue to be refunded is not enough to satisfy some investors, or if they feel they have a speedier more viable way, then they must opt for that alternative, even if that means pursuing legal action against myself. Roger Gekko Properties
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